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the president is speaking blocks away from where this 15-year-old was killed days after his inauguration. she was standing together in a huddle trying to get out of the rain when gunshots hit her. >> her parents are here tonight along with more than two dozen americans whose lives have been torn apart by gun violence. they deserve a vote. they deserve a vote. gabby giffords deserves a vote. the families of newtown deserve a vote. the families of aurora deserve a vote. the family of oak creek and tucson and blacksburg and the countless other communities ripped open by gun violence, they deserve a simple vote.
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>> moving moment. we start with michael crowley, deputy washington bureau chief, all over this along with their cover story. we're going to talk about the pope, we'll talk about the president. the nation for the most part wants gun control, supports the president's initiative on this but it seems almost impassable through congress. how does the president negotiate this where the nation wants it but then the elected officials are mostly saying, no, we're not going for it. >> to some degree you have a structural issue and i've talked about it and you guys talk about it all the time. there's not much can you do about it. because of gerrymandering, you have a lot of members of congress who are primarily worried about a challenge from their right. they don't want anybody to get to their right. so the way the districts are
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drawn gives members this incentive to stake out an extreme position rather than toward the center. i've been surprised some of my predictions of this aftermath of this tragedy would fade away. the president, who feels sincerely about this, is dedicating his precious time and bully pulpit band width to keeping it alive and keeping people talking and public opinion has moved. republicans can't completely ignore public opinion. he's just got to keep pushing it. >> you talk about fending off challenges from the right, harry reid says that's absolutely what's going on with the chuck hagel situation. he says i guess to be able to run for the senate, you are need to have a resumé that says i helped filibuster one of the president's nominees. maybe that helps keep a tea party guy or woman from running against you. do you really think that it will
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help somebody when they go back to their district for an election in 2014 that they're able to say i stood up to the president on chuck hagel? >> i think that, look, most americans i think are not terribly tuned into the nomination process of chuck hagel, probably doesnn't have strong feelings about him. say you're lindsay graham and you have a town meeting, a lot of people are thinking is graham really with us? is he fighting the president to the wall the way we want him to? lindsay graham does have to be very concerned about getting primaried. everyone's talking about chuck hagel. i think back in their district the intensity, the people who demonstrate real interest, intensity and knowledge about the situation, are they the conservative base?
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for the most part for someone like lindsay graham, absolutely yes. i think that's key to what's happening here. >> all right, mr. crowley, let's talk some turkey. mike murphy has a post-op in time saying the white house has come to the shaky conclusion that the president's best tactic is continue the campaign theatrics and force the gop congress to bend to his will. he writes the president must abandon the silly campaign 3.0 stuff and face reality and since magic doors one lock the door to the votes "some beneficiaries pay more and change cpi," which is budgetary code for slyly lowering budget increases over time. what do you think of this strategy? do you think republicans will come to the table and say let's put entitlement reform on the table in some sense? >> i think big entitlement
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reform the republicans are talking about is not going to happen. i think chain cpi is within the realm of reality. i think what democrats are not going to do is cut entitlements if republicans are not willing to move givagain on revenue. democrats feel even though they got some revenue in the fiscal cliff deal, it hasn't been a balanced process. i don't think they're going to be able to sell their own base if republicans don't move a little bit. i think the chain cpi is a plausible outcome but not as long as republicans are in debate. a lot of republicans clearly would rather see the sequestration acts fall on the pentagon than allow for any higher tax ref it's an interesting statement of conservative priorities at this point to me. >> michael, there was an ad lib line in the state of the union. it seemed to me at least, look, i don't want to do benefit cuts
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in social security unless republicans first open up on more revenue. let's say in the unlikely event republicans do say they're open to more revenue, whether it's closing loopholes, deduction, there was a letter yesterday calling on obama to flatly rule out any benefit cuts in medicare, medicaid, social security and that would include chained cpi. give as you little preview if obama does go down this road what he's going to be facing within his own party if he touches chained cpi, for instance. >> there is going to be really strong opposition. i think a lot of the opposition may be all 100 of the members who signed that member were entirely sincere about it. at the same time, when deal get done in washington, there's a necessary degree of posturing and theatrics. you need to have both sides for something to get done here are going to need to be able to say we stood up to our base, we told them you're going to have to
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make a compromise you don't want to make. though the members may have been expressing a genuine sentiment, i think at the end of the day obama may have to say i've totally infuriated the left, but i can bring them around if you guys will just move a little bit on revenue and you're going to have infuriate your base. in a strange way it sets us up for the possibility of a deal. both sides need to feel offendi. >> i think that analysis makes sense. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. any time. it's why we have you here. you say smart things. >> universal pre-k was on the president's agenda in the state of the union. big initiative and david brooks, conservative columnist for the "new york times" said of that proposal "president obama has taken on a big challenge in a realistic and ambitious way.
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if republicans really believe in opportunity and local control, they will get on board." and in fact i think education reform is one of the areas where the left and the right are the closest together and democrats and republicans of course in the recent past have collaborated on education reform. so do you think -- and also oklahoma, a deep red state, has universal pre-k, is really sort of the preeminent model for how this could be done in the entire country. do you think this is an area where republicans and democrats really could work together to build some sort of consensus around universal pre-k? >> well, i think it's possible. i think david brooks is a wonderful columnist but david brooks very often says republicans know what's good for them, they'll get on board with this and republicans rarely do it. i thought that was an interesting column. but i still think that the party's instinct is when republicans see something like this, i think they see more government, more spending and
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they flinch from it. it is a very popular issue. i think it was a smart one for the president to pick. i've heard some theorizing that he may be setting up some kind of a deal on a very popular program that republicans can sign on to. give again, to go back to the question of letting down the base that wants no entitlement cuts, maybe you introduce new things into equation and say we have this great new early childhood education program but we are going to have to do some benefit cuts, chained cpi and it will be kind of some sugar to make the bitter pill go down more easily. i don't know that republicans are there yet. i still think republicans are looking to shrink government. they see perhaps like this and they recoil and they say it's big government and there are better ways to do it. it would be nice to see some agreement on this because these programs do seem to have a lot of empirical evidence of their success behind them. >> the details are sparse on exactly what the program would
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entail but it looks like it would be more of the model of race to the top where it's more incentive based, encouraging states to develop their own program, so focus on the state level, the local control, seems like something republicans can and should get on board with. since the president proposed it, as you're saying, they probably won't. >> there is that problem, as a republican, calling it university pre-k is not the right thing to call it. >> it sounds like another entitlement. >> the details are sparse, we don't know how this is going to be done but it sounds like a big government universal pre-k. not a great way to sell it to republicans. >> so are you against pre-k for everybody? >> no, we're talking about the language here. >> just how you sell it. when you phrase it that way, it does sound like a big government program. >> all right.
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michael crowley, good hit. >> all right. thanks, guys. i'm glad it made sense. >> yeah, come back, man. >> have me back, please. >> thank you very much, brother. >> have a great weekend. >> straight ahead, cruise control. we all like friday but i know about 4,000 people that are way happier than you are right now because they triumphed over "triumph." see what i did there? and noodles on spoons. a kite, a breeze, a dunk of grilled cheese. catches and throws, and spaghettio's. a wand, some wings, soup with good things. sidewalks and doodles and wholesome noodles. puddles and pails and yes, puppy dog tails. for a lunch like this, there's a hug and a kiss. because that's what happy kids are made of. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.
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good day taking their significant other on a romantic cruise and spent six days at seas crapping into a plastic bag or as the germans call that, the love boat. cnn has been on the case. for some reason giving this boat crisis wall to [ bleep ]-covered wall coverage. >> i'll tell you what, this is a great moment to at least visually connect you to the daughter you have not seen in seven days. >> you're not heros, guys. it's not a hostage situation or a baby in a well. you reconnected them? they weren't supposed to see each other. she's on a cruise for a few days. meanwhile, the ship of stools enjoys 24/7 coverage and a slow tug job back to mobile, alabama.
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>> after five days of misery, thousands of weary cruise ship passengers aboard the carnival "triumph" had relief after docking last night. the crippled ship with 3,200 passengers and 1,000 crew members had to be pulled back to land by three tug boats. an engine fire left the ship without power, leaving passengers with overflowing toilets, no air conditions and little food. federal investigators will begin to investigate what went wrong. the first lawsuits of course are now being filed. what do we know? >> there she is right behind me. as you can see, that's the "triumph," almost within smelling distance, just a couple of hundred of yards here. it was moved from the dock where it landed last night over to the ship yard. as we speak, crews are going over trying to figure out what the damage is, what went wrong
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with it. the official investigation into the incident will begin in ernest sometime later today. as that's going on, you have the 4,000 crew members and passengers who are making their way home all across the united states and parts of canada today. for some of them it hasn't been an easy trip. a bus actually broke down that was chartered to bring some of the passengers to new orleans. so they had to suffer through that after getting off of this ship. as you might imagine, though, when they arrived here in mobile late last night, people were pretty overjoyed to get off this smelly vessel. >> whoo! glad to be on the ground, everybody. >> united states, ain't nothing better! >> so passengers continue to make their way home, some with better success than others. and the bohemians, the ship is registered in the bahamas so they'll be leading the investigation into the fire and what caused it to list aimlessly
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over the last several days. >> thank you, chris. carnival will be giving all passengers a refund, a voucher for $500 and a voucher for another cruise. what? i love boats. i have sailed the eastern sea board. cruise ships take all the things i love about a boat and throw them out the window. can you not fish off a cruise boat. you can't dock spontaneously into some cool port of call and grab some fried fish and a beer, which is one of my all-time favorite pastimes. there are strangers there to annoy you on a cruise ship, which is my biggest pet peeve, other people. and finally, there are people there tell ug to come buy knockoffs of the great impressionist masters in the art gallery and forcing to you do
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group exercise. leave me alone! another thing this reminded me of is i had a harrowing experience like this of my own. last year i was on the sort of now infamous jetblue flight out of las vegas whereupon ascent we lost all hydraulics -- >> because of you. >> no. >> george soros was behind this, wasn't he? >> upon ascent, lose hydraulics. we have a full tank of gas and we can't land, the plane is too heavy and it's dangerous to land with a full tank of gas. so we have to circle vegas for five hours without ability to control either the altitude or the sort of like the tilt. so the plane is like this for five hours. it turned into a vomitorium. it was a terrible experience. >> did you have talk to the news media about this per se? >> i may have. >> do we have that video maybe?
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>> and those souls were getting sick from the bobbing and weaving of the aircraft for three and a half hours. >> the little bags that are in the back of the seat were insufficient so they started handing out large heavy duty plastic bags. >> that's right before we started doing this show. >> yeah. it was -- and it was not three and a half hours. it was a full five. it was awful. not five days at sea but -- >> my nightmare is the plane actually crashing but -- >> but if it crashes you're good because you don't have to think about it anymore. >> except for all eternity. beside that, you crash in a pile of -- great. that's -- >> i'm sure you'd be cool and calm under those -- >> when you got off the vomitorium, did they give you vouchers for a free carnival cruise? >> they did. they reimbursed the flight and gave us a thousand dollars toward a new flight. and a lot of us got right back on a plane after landing to get
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home. i was one of them. >> that's awful. >> it was not fun. >> i share your hatred of cruises. i've been on two in my life. one was in middle school. the other one was last year. there's a couple things i have an issue with. one is i feel so confined. >> because you are! >> you can't escape. you are stuck on this thing. it's such a canned experience. it's forced relaxation, which relaxation is not something that i do particularly well. >> me neither. >> and i share your problem with the other people. >> people make it worse. >> people make it worse. for me it's not because i don't like people, it's because i'm actually shy and i don't want to be forced into a social situation. it's not like they're just there. there's some expectation that you're going to try to make friends with people. you're like sitting with them at dinner and whatever. i don't want that. i don't like people. i've always hated cruises and always will. >> that's what doesn't make sense about the cruises. there are fake art galleries, giant restaurants, gyms and
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they're doing everything possible to make you forget that you're on a boat. so what's the point of having a boat? it's just a hotel -- it's a hotel that might sink. that's basically what they have. and i took one cruise i guess you call it. we went from portland, maine to nova scotia. i was like 7. i'm standing in this room and the lights come all around me. three miles off the water, the casino opens. i started playing the slot machine and some employee kicked me out after 30 minutes. then i got sea sick and then i got the chickenpox. >> i have never been on a crew. have i a deep memory aversion of getting on a big boat. maybe a little boat but not a big boat. they keep talking about nightmare cruise, i'm like, hello, the middle passage, that was a nightmare cruise. what these people went through was basically like nothing like what a billion people on the
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planet go through every day, oh my, god, bad food, bad toilets, no a.c. i saw a tweet "conditions on board that broken down cruise ship sound quite pleasant compared to the daily lives of many around the world. this is first world problems in a big way. >> i'm sure it was uncomfortable but tommy christopher called it inconveneapocalypse. >> and our friends in the media showed nothing but that the entire day. >> a boat moving at five miles an hour -- >> the opposite of riveting. >> the president's better half. we know who really runs the country. i'm a conservative investor. but that doesn't mean i don't want to make money. i love making money. i try to be smart with my investments.
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trend setters, fashion icons and civil rights leaders. i'm not talking about "the cycle." >> what? >> there are few people that history looks upon more fondly than the first ladies of the united states. so it's no wonder that c-span has decided to focus on them in their roles in its newest series. >> we can weigh from the needs of others. we align ourselves with those forces which are bringing about this suffering. >> the white house is a bully pulpit and you taught to take advantage of it. >> they are in many cases quite frankly more interesting as human beings than their husbands, if only because they are not first and foremost defined and consequently limited by political ambition. >> why is it that americans have
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long been so fascinated by the first lady? how has the position evolved over time? joining us is mark vargas, executive producer of the feature on the first ladies. there's a lot of directions to go in here. when i think of the modern role of the first lady, i guess i think of hillary clinton r revolutionized the role because she took such a hands on role. he deputized her as she took the lead role in health care reform. he talked about you vote for me, you're get it would go for the price of one. at least back then hillary clinton emerged as a very polarizing figure. i guess when you look at the first lady, how comfortable do you think americans are with the idea in general of a first lady who plays a very active role in the day-to-day governing of the country? >> you know, i think it's
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changing because when hillary clinton went through that, there obviously was a backlash. we just did a poll and one of the questions was how many americans think it's okay for first ladies to use their role for political purposes? surpri surprisingly 53% of americans now say it's okay. so i think the role is evolving. plenty of first ladies look back to prior first ladies to gain guidance. >> jacqueline kennedy, super conservative, very stylish. what do you think of her place in the pantheon? >> she's the first first lady to have a press secretary. that tells you something. when you take a look at first ladies, they are on the forefront of obviously fashion from time to time butch th they a lot of influence with their president husbands. i think the fact that she has a press secretary for the first
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time tells you something about where the media was where at that point and where women were at at that point. >> one of my favorite people historically period is eleanor roosevelt. i think she's so incredible, activist in her own right, even before she became first lady. she was at first depressed about being the sort of hostess and the wife and playing that role so she continued doing what she was doing, she wrote a syndicated column, she gave press conferences and she was the first first lady to speak at her husband's convention and after her husband passed, she had an active role in public life and she actually disagreed with her husband, something we still don't see first ladies do. how did she broke the mold of first ladies? >> you're right, she's the first first lady to hold press conferences. the interesting thing is only women reporters are allowed to be at the press conference.
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the stodgy owners of newspapers have to hire women reporters. if you look at where you all are, maybe it doesn't happen as quickly. she certainly was a trend setter and she was one of those first first ladies to really get out in the television era, she's using the media in radio shows and addresses to the nation as well. >> mark, i've got to be honest. it's always seemed as an unenviable role to me. it is a job full with expectations and schedules all because of some dude you married 20 years ago. i'm not sure these women get enough credit. they're doing all of the things that they do from charity to policy making in some cases while raising kids. let me play this sound from michelle obama. >> you come into this house and there is so much to do. there's so much coming at you
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that there's no time to think or reflect or do anything except get through each day. >> do we appreciate these women enough, mark? >> well, personally as a father of two daughters, i appreciate them greatly but i don't know if we do. you really think about what's going on in the white house and why are reality tv shows so popular now? well, you take rich or famous people and put them inside some type of bubble and dysfunction happens. it's easy to identify with what a president goes through. but everyone's got family. it's amazing they are out there and they're as busy as they are as michelle obama said but they really are the ones who have to do the parenting. obviously the president is involved as well but to me that's an interesting aspect to the series as well as, the families inside the white house.
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>> we're always talking about hillary clinton running for president in 2016. if she wins, we'll have our first first gentleman. >> first dude. >> we're about 15 minutes away from the president's speech in chicago. our facebook friend john wants to hear him crack down on the gun violence. we want to thank mason and all our fans getting us to 10,000 likes. our new goal is now 30,000 likes, skipping 20,000 there. so make sure to tell your friends all about us and get them to like us, too. up next, the invisible war, a battle taking place far from the front lines. keep it here in "the cycle." my doctor told me calcium
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everything came to a complete change the day that i was raped. >> i got there in february. by april i was drugged and raped for the first time. >> i had like a cold or
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pneumonia-like symptoms and so they isn't me to get checked out. and while i was waiting to be examined, he came in and he helped himself. >> with over 200,000 women enlisted in the military, there's an ugly battle going on far from the baitlelines. this is shocking. today female shoulders serving in afghanistan and iraq are more likely to be sexually assaulted by a fellow -- not only do these women suffer the horrors of raped but they are often shaped, isolated or discharged after reporting the assault. with us, dr. kirby dick.
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congratulations for creating this incredibly powerful film. hive heard more than a few members of congress mention it as being very thought provoking so you've sparked a conversation here. let's start with what to me was one of the most stunning parts of the film. these women are raped or sexually assaulted. if they report it, they are often the ones punished and the men are able to go on with their careers. what's going on here? >> when i started making the film, i was so astonished on how antiquated the notions are toward sexual assault in the military. there's a notion that many of these rape claims are false rape claims when in fact only 1% are only false rape claims. the military hasn't stepped up and done what it needs to do to solve this problem. >> this is a horrible problem.
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you talk about female soldiers in iraq and afghanistan more likely to be raped than killed by the enemy. 80% unreported. perpetrators are often their ranking officers. what are the roadblocks within the military toward reforming this massive problem? >> well, i think they have some very basic structural problems. for so long they've covered this up, they haven't addressed it. as a result, between half a million and a million men and women have been sexually assaulted. i'd like to add it's not just women being assaulted. in absolute numbers, more men than women are being assaulted. most men in the military are horrified by this, most commanders are horrified by this. these assaults are happening by a small percentage of serial assailants that assault again and again. the military has not gotten its military justice system in order to go after and incarcerate them. >> recent news has bought the idea of women serving in combat
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to light. i'm wondering if you talked to any of the women about that prospect and what effect you think the sort of new lay of the land will have on this problem and this issue. >> well, i think this is something that's long overdue. i mean, these women i think because they couldn't go into combat and as a result they couldn't advance were treated as often times second class citizens. and we know that as a result of that often times there was more harassment. we know if there's harassment in the unit, it's more likely the serial predators will operate. in that regard it's good. they still haven't gotten their military justice system together to go after these serial predators. that's what is lacking here. >> we have a new secretary of defense coming in any day now. what specifically should the pentagon be doing to combat this? >> well, you know, since the film has come out, there's certainly a realization that
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this is a very, very serious problem. in fact, the military is using the film as part of its sexual assault training. today we estimate more than 250,000 men and women within the military have seen the film. >> wow. >> what they really need to do, though, is change the way they approach this. right now the way they investigate and prosecute -- the decision to investigate and prosecute these crimes is made within the chain of command and as a result men and women don't report because they perceive there are conflicts of interest. if they don't report, these serial predators go on to assault again and again. it moves to be moved outside the chain of command with independent prosecutors and investigators making the decision. the military is fighting back on this right now. i still think they don't get it. they've had 40 years to solve this problem and they've failed. they have to make these structural problems. >> kirby, thank you so much. >> straight ahead, "the cycle" is getting all presidential.
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raising the minimum wage, improving education, improving early education, but he'll tie that -- he'll tie a stronger middle class to gun violence, talking about if you do that, if you build a middle class you can reduce violence. certainly here in this neighborhood in the south side of chicago, it's a daily issue, this way. we're about a mile away from where the young 15-year-old honor student who had performed at events surrounding president obama's inauguration, her parents are here, as well as the parents of families of other victims of gun violence along with many community leaders and religious leaders who have been working against gun violence. right now the government is holding a private conversation, a private roundtable with 16 students here at hyde park academy who participate in an anti-violence program, some by choice, some on the
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recommendation of teachers and administrators. it was described by school officials as a conversation about the challenges young men face growing up in tough neighborhoods. the pressures that they may confront, the dangers that they may confront. and this is a neighborhood that president obama knows well. his home here in -- family house here in chicago is only about two miles away. he represented this area in the state legislature in springfield, illinois. as one of really our first urban presidents, he knows the dangers and what goes on on these straits very well. he's having a conversation with 16 students about it right now. >> i understand that mayor rahm emanuel will be introducing the president. there was some question about the politics of the president giving this speech in chicago and potentially calling attention to the fact that the murder rate in chicago is actually up year over year under
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mayor rahm emanuel. >> well, i think that it's sort of undeniable. this is now sort of mayor em emanuel's a problem. he's now halfway through his first term and this really will determine much of the success or failure and how this term is viewed is how he does handle this issue. as you said, there are more than 500 homicides in chicago last year. that's more than the new york city, which of course has far more people. so far this year there have been about 50 homicides, even though we're barely through the middle of february. this is a problem this city is facing. it was a problem that the previous mayor had faced, mayor daly, and it's a problem that the current may and the police chief, chief mccarthy, who is here as well, is facing.
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but i think there has been a lot of call on president obama from this neighborhood, from this community for him to come here and talk about it. they say that he went to tucson and spoke there. he went to newtown and talked there. of course those are the scenes of mass shootings. not really mass shootings here in chicago but when you think about with about 50 homicides so far this year, we've had two newtowns, just over a longer period of time. >> john yang, that's absolutely right. let's back spin as we wait for the president to come out. if you're a 15 to 19-year-old young black man, the number one cause of death is gun violence. when you talk when we talked about the president not doing enough for black people, we had people on this show making that point. when he is pursuing this gun control agenda, he's pursuing something that's disproportionately affecting the black k3450u7community.
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when he's talking to them in chicago he's trying to deal with that. when he's at the state of the union talking about let's have a vote, he's dealing with the idea of obstruction, of filibuster, of these holds and clotures that have kept us from even getting these things to the light of day. and just put your vote on record. you can vote no. i'm not a king, not going to tell what you to do but let's have it out. >> there's some news coming out of washington today on bipartisan progress. there's a group of senators that are basically saying they're 95% of the way to a deal on a universal background check legislation. basically the holdup seems to be around the idea of people who already have these concealed carry permits, where they would be grandfathered in. the idea of including private sales in the background check system and including mental hale, they apparently have reached -- come close to an
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agreement. when you think about where this gun control debate was before sandy hook and this news today, that's a pretty big deal. >> krystal, can i talk to you about the other news out of chicago? >> of course. >> that rahm emanuel may run for president. >> yes, i heard that. >> now, remind me, are you a fan of rahm emanuel or not a fan? >> i really like rahm emanuel. >> i know you do. >> i really like rahm emanuel. >> this is really putting you in a tough spot. >> hillary has my head though. >> she doesn't have your heart? >> of what does biden have? your funny bone. >> it's an embarrassment of riches on the democratic side. if all three of them were to get it, which i don't think would happen. for rahm it's a little bit of a different calculus because i think there would be something to him running and building more of a national profile even if he didn't ultimately win the primary. biden i think stays out if hillary gets in. >> do i have to buy another
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onesie. >> s.e., that made the best present ever which was a onesie with hillary clinton's face on it and a onesie with joe biden's face on it so that my baby doesn't have to choose. >> i need to get another one. >> people talk about criminals not wanting to submit to them and perhaps that's true, but what it does is it puts a lot of pressure on the gun dealers and they want to be abiding by the law and not be hauled off to jail. you're talking about a small number of gun dealers are dealing illegally to people who they know are criminals, when you put the pressure on them you start to deal with the trafficking piece, you start to have fewer guns flowing around throughout america. >> yeah. >> all right. we're coming back in a minute and we'll hear from the president. today is gonna be an important day for us. you ready? we wanna be our brother's keeper. what's number two we wanna do? bring it up to 90 decatherms. how bout ya, joe?
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we're still waiting for the president to come to us from chicago. right now i'm celebrating black history month by talking about some significant issues in the black community today. guns. 15-year-old hadiya pendleton died a week after performing at the inauguration, a victim of gun violence in chicago. >> she was 15 years old. she loved fig newtons. she was a majorette. she was so good to her friends they all thought they were her best friend. >> it's so sweet but in too many ways her story is unextraordinary because black america is plagued by gun violence. in 2011 the number of blacks under 22 killed by guns was more than triple the number of u.s.
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soldiers killed in afghanistan. the number of plaque children killed by gunfire since 1979 is over 13 times more than the number of blacks lynched between 1882 and 1968. and since 1969 homicides involving firearms have been the leading cause of death for black males age 15 to 19. that is the leading cause of hopelessness and nihilism and morbidity we see in our young black men who feel themselves one step away from the grave every day. perhaps more tragically, most homicides are intraracial. the vast majority of killers of blacks are blacks. we're killing each other every day. no community is more in deed of gun control, is more in need of rescue from america's gun epidemic than black people, and we know it. we're extremely in favor of gun control. a recent